Robert Degle on Swapping Academia for BJJ, Language’s Role in Rolling and Why Strength Matters (#14)

Robert Degle is a BJJ brown belt under John Danaher, and also a coach now based in Singapore.

Check out our engaging conversation around topics of how Rob swapped his academic path of philosophy for BJJ, why language plays such an important role in learning and coaching jiujitsu, and why being strong matters on the mats, and in life.

✔️0:00 – CBD Mountain

✔️0:21 – Robert Degle Intro

✔️0:50 – Rob’s recent move to Singapore

✔️5:10 – Swapping Pizza for Indian food

✔️6:23 – What drew Rob to want to study philosophy initially

✔️7:49 – Rob’s impressive, concise breakdown of his favourite philosopher, Ludwig Wittgenstein

✔️10:44 – Different theories of language and Wittgenstein’s conclusion surrounding the true purpose of words
The Picture Theory of Language
Plato and the Theory of the Forms

✔️13:33 – The Barber’s Paradox Bertrand Russell
The Meaning Theory of Language

✔️15:50 – What academia does well, with regards to teaching

✔️17:46 – Danaher’s hybrid approach to academia and jiujitsu
Mastering JiuJitsu – Renzo Gracie and John Danaher

✔️20:56 – The way Danaher teaches his students to make decisions using heuristics

✔️24:30 – How Danaher systemised Back Control
Rob’s concise Back Control video

✔️26:50 – Do you have to start learning something as complex as Back Control with simple nomenclature terms and names?

✔️29:30 – 2 key things for coaches

✔️33:15 – Kinaesthetic learning athletes who are outliers

✔️35:45 – Learning styles in the dojo; how do you ensure that everyone in the room, regardless of learning style, comes away with the maximum level of information retention?

✔️36:30 – The golden age of the blue basement and why it was so magical

✔️38:58 – Creating the correct training environment to propel progress

✔️42:00 – Rob getting a stern word from Danaher on training intensities

✔️42:50 – Where Rob begins with teaching beginners
Krishna Mirjah (@krishna001)
Rob Biernacki (@islandtopteam)

✔️44:24 – What are the fundamentals of jiujitsu? And what are your students’ goals?

✔️46:10 – Rob’s class format and how he organises his students into groups
Ryan Hall article from Lock Flow

✔️50:42 – How Rob encourages his students to improve outside of jiujitsu class times

✔️54:15 – Rob’s approach to position-specific sparring, and the two ways it can go wrong

✔️59:10 – How long Rob runs a new position in his curriculum before switching it out

✔️1:01:50 – Can the skill of teaching jiujitsu, be taught?

✔️1:05:30 – Rob’s approach to Strength and Conditioning
Dr Amato (@dr.amato_pt)
Jason Rosati (@jasonrosati)

✔️1:12:15 – Injury prevention in the weight room

✔️1:15:43 – Grip training for jiujitsu
Dan Strauss (@raspberry_ape)

✔️1:19:03 – How Rob periodises his S&C to fit his competition calendar

✔️1:22:00 – The Dorian Yates Colouring Book method

✔️1:23:40 – Rob’s archiving approach to logging his training

✔️1:25:00 – Rob’s stance on using jiujitsu to improve his own quality of life

✔️1:34:35 – The unpopular opinion Rob holds towards mental preparation before competing in jiujitsu

✔️1:40:00 – Rob’s Instagram, Website and Youtube

✔️1:41:56 – CBD Mountain Outro

Instagram – @RobertDeglebjj
Youtube – Robert Degle BJJ
Website –

This episode of the MoveMind podcast was brought to you by CBD Mountain, the sport and fitness CBD.

The MoveMind Podcast explores all things body and brain; hosting a variety of experts, coaches, high achievers and pioneers to give you the tools for a personal, holistic upgrade.

Listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify
Watch on Youtube
View episode list

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s